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so basically JayZ2BrainCells creates an internet witch hunt with unverified speculation, then back pedals massively when the most obvious reason (drivers) is proved to be the actual problem

 

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I dont think its just the driver though, because those other cards can still go higher. Now they just limited them from going overboard. 

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mine boosts higher now than it did with the first driver

We're also talking 2GHz clock speeds on a 1710MHz base clock, approx 300MHz above stock clock which is a 17.6% overclock for free. It's already a substantial benefit, and the Hardware Unboxed dude is right, if the 2nd driver had been put out because proper testing had been done, nobody would have questioned it.

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Did you buy it or is it just a picture ?

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Since i can't do SLI anymore, this is the only way to be more e-peen than Kunasha. Also, no 3080 was available, 3080 strix was like january for me and only 600 euro cheaper so mjeh. Havent spent any money for like a year since I bought my last suit and it made me happy. 10% more FPS for €600 happy.

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2 hours ago, Ernesto said:

Since i can't do SLI anymore, this is the only way to be more e-peen than Kunasha. Also, no 3080 was available, 3080 strix was like january for me and only 600 euro cheaper so mjeh. Havent spent any money for like a year since I bought my last suit and it made me happy. 10% more FPS for €600 happy.

Now do this

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/gamer-installs-crysis-3-on-geforce-rtx-3090s-vram-and-it-runs

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11 hours ago, Ernesto said:

Since i can't do SLI anymore, this is the only way to be more e-peen than Kunasha. Also, no 3080 was available, 3080 strix was like january for me and only 600 euro cheaper so mjeh. Havent spent any money for like a year since I bought my last suit and it made me happy. 10% more FPS for €600 happy.

As my good friend Sheryl Crow once said; if it makes you happy it can't be that bad

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It seems to deliver rock steady 1950mhz constantly, maxing out at 66c. No overclock or anything touched or done yet. Will tinker when I get the block.

It is significantly louder than the old cards, but those used two 120mm AIO coolers at very low fan speeds. But only loud in comparation of course, I would guess this card is pretty quiet compared to most, but just guessing here hehe.

I have the same case as Kunasha, the enormous Enthoo Primo, so not the best airflow. A smaller case more created for air cooling would give the card extra power I would think.

 

Control, which is very heavy to run, was constantly above 60, sniffing 100s, with all the bells and whistles turned on, no DLSS fake ass crap.

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Guess waiting game gonna be extended a bit heh. Maybe it will be a full AMD build O.O

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all interesting, but I don't have buyers remorse yet. The RTX 3080 is doing everything I want it to at maxed out settings 1440p, so it's great for me still.

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I dont even remember the last time i had anything AMD/ATI, like early to mid 2000 maybe. Pretty sure i had a PC with an athlon 64 cpu of some kind, perhaps even dual core, and like a radeon 9600 hehe.

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Watch Dogs Legion has shown me that an i7-7700K at 5.1GHz is no longer enough for the latest games.

The game itself even tells me that my CPU has a negative impact on performance :(

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I'm still using a 4790K, with a 2080Ti, definitely CPU bottlenecked but not enough to really notice it in anything I currently play (3440x1440)

I'm considering going to AMD for a CPU for the first time in 20 years!

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yeah, going to see about a 5800x or 5900x when the benchmarks come out.

5800x has same cores/threads as the new consoles, but the 5900x can leave you 2 cores and 4 threads free to do other stuff.

apparently the ubisoft AC and WD engine really wants 6+ cores, I see 100% cpu use and my RTX3080 dropping to 80% at 1440p, 45-55 FPS, so not really what I want there

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I am also running a 7700k, but can only get stable at 4800. 2080ti is showing very minor signs of cpu bottlenext at 2560 x 1440, slightly more pronounced as 3440 a1440.

I have considered the new 10900K, whats the benefit with the AMD ?

 

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I've not been following hardware that much Pete, but the short version pending reviews of the upcoming AMD CPU's are that they are going to be hitting close to Intel speeds with more cores for the first time in ... ever?

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https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/threads/ryzen-5000-series-now-online-5950x-5900x-5800x-5600x-coming-november-5th-at-5pm.18902000/

4.8GHz boost for 5900x 12 core, 24 thread

4.7GHz boost for 5800x 8 core, 16 thread

there is some ambiguity about which is best for gaming. The 5800x has all cores on 1 controller thing, whereas the 5900x has them split on 2. That could mean extra latency on the 5900x, but surely more cores available for stuff is more future proof? Reviews really must be read/watched I think. 

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Thanks Simon / Tony

There is still the argument about how many games will actually utilize the increased core counts and whether or not the thermal throtlling is the larger issue than the number of cores. I am not looking to upgrade until the new year anyhow, so i can wait to see the reviews. I am also not interested in productivity. I want to paly games at stupid frame rates and stream videos/movies, with the occasional dip into S.A.P. working from home, but this is done via virtualisation, so i could run it on my phone if i wanted too.

Short of Scores on the relevant test software does the speed of the make that much difference ? i am not so sure. i know i cant tell the difference in gameplay from standard to 20% overclocking, but i am nearly as old as Depraved so i might be too old to notice.

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1 hour ago, Kunasha said:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/threads/ryzen-5000-series-now-online-5950x-5900x-5800x-5600x-coming-november-5th-at-5pm.18902000/

4.8GHz boost for 5900x 12 core, 24 thread

4.7GHz boost for 5800x 8 core, 16 thread

there is some ambiguity about which is best for gaming. The 5800x has all cores on 1 controller thing, whereas the 5900x has them split on 2. That could mean extra latency on the 5900x, but surely more cores available for stuff is more future proof? Reviews really must be read/watched I think. 

Immediately makes me think that the 5900x is going to be better suited to folks who still do video encoding etc - non-gaming workloads, really out of touch with how well the most modern games utilise multi-core CPU's though - can eight be enough? :)

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While older games are pretty much single threaded and rely on clock speed, the newer engines are starting to use more threads. This will increase as devs develop for Xbox Series X and PS5. If you can wait until new year, then you may as well wait until April when Intel bring out Rocketlake and see how that compares. However, if previews can be believed then Intel have their work cut out to match Zen 3. We'll see I guess.

The lower the resolution and higher refresh rate you game at, the more you will get CPU bottleneck vs GPU. Stronger GPU is needed for higher resolutions, and if you game at 1440p ultrawide or 4K, you're more likely going to be saturating pretty much all GPUs on the market before you saturate the CPU. This changes a bit with 1440P, although I've only seen Watch Dogs Legion do this on my machine with the RTX 3080, and as I run at 5.1GHz this is due to threads needed rather than clock speed needed (all 8 logical cores max out at 99% when playing at some locations while GPU stops being at 99%).

At 1080p, "competitive graphic settings", and a stupid refresh 360Hz refresh rate monitor, then CPU will be the main thing that would push frame rate up rather than GPU. For example out of these two running CS-Go in this config, the overclocked i7-7700K is going to be the one with the higher frame rate:

1. An i7-7700K @ 5.1GHz, and a GTX1080TI

2. An i7-7700K @ 4.2GHz, and a RTX3080

The higher the resolution and graphics settings you go, and thus frame rate, the more the GPU takes over doing more of the work.

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I get the same frame rate in WDL on my i7-7700 and RTX3080 as the test setup for this review running an i9-9900K, proving it's my expectations that are wrong the for game engine that is used.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-review,15.html

Also, the Cyberpunk recommended requirements for 1440p ultra name the i7-6700K, so I don't think I need to upgrade yet. I'd also question if David needs to.

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But yeah, I was about to skip, but then I found a motherboard at 100e off, so I figured if i save 100e on motherboard, I can spend 1000 on processor and RAM

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On 11/28/2020 at 9:56 AM, Kunasha said:

That reply deserves a like button 

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