Naicha Report post Posted September 20, 2012 Very weird, and I assume all the water values are good, and that it's not leaking yeast or something into the tank. Obvious thing to check first tho. How many fishies are left and how many died? :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted September 21, 2012 All the Cichlids and mollies are gone, six of each. My blue neon seem to thrive, which is pretty weird. The galaxy rasboa are down by five. Water values are fine and stable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 21, 2012 Oh you have galaxies, they have pretty nice color. Weird that it doesn't seem to affect the neons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted September 21, 2012 Naicha wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 12:42 Weird that it doesn't seem to affect the neons. Yeah, even tho they are one of the hardier Neon species, it still is kinda weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 21, 2012 I have between 6.0 and 6.5 pH now when the light has been off since 10-11 AMish. So after 6ish hours of no light its around there. Going to measure later tonight when it shuts down again and see what the pH is after 5-6 hours of light. Maybe it's a tad too much co2, at least with the plants right now. Maybe more plants will push it down but that'll take awhile for them all to grow abit. and for me to get more. Anywho, meanwhile it might be good for me to lift the exhaust up abit ot get more surface disturbance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 21, 2012 Honestly realized I'll have to rescape alittle bit to make this all work out nicely. I'll probably remove my fish during the beginning of next week, jsut as a precaution so I don't hurt them accidentally. They can live in a bucket for an hour or two. Not doing alot of changes but still, moving some rock and soil around with fish still inside feels dodgy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 22, 2012 Found a store today with shitloads of fish. amazing, theyre gonna fix ruby tetra for me. They also had fire red apisto which looked awesome. I think I want a pair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 26, 2012 My plants still hasnt been shipped! I hate waiting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 28, 2012 Got 20 rubies today. They're so small and schoal very well! Can increase that schoal size to the double later on since 20 sounds alot but looking at it it looks like nothing. We'll see later on when more plants arrive and its grown together abit and they'll feel more at home. Hopefully they'll show some colors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted September 28, 2012 Usualy it takes a day or two for them to show full colour after a stressful move. Looking forward to seeing some pictures. Remember to be active near the tank so they get used to movement and dont hide every time you want to look at them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 29, 2012 Lyngs wrote on Fri, 28 September 2012 19:38Usualy it takes a day or two for them to show full colour after a stressful move. Looking forward to seeing some pictures. Remember to be active near the tank so they get used to movement and dont hide every time you want to look at them. They are caught in the wild aswell so I imagine they've been traveling for several weeks straight. I understand if they feel stressed out. Anywho, now they can settle in for real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 29, 2012 Hm, lyngs, later on, when i've been running co2 for awhiel and all my plants have come together and its all "grown together" properly. Is it possible to quit using co2 then? like try to gradually tone it down until its eventually completely off, since, well, its just a risk and a hassle and when the plants are big and all that it might not be really needed.. Now I need more plants though cause too few plants and a couple of weeks of somewhat unstable co2 gives those ugly black beard algae. but hopefully my co2system is going stableish now. Anyway, when plants are big enough its jsut a biitch to have to prune them all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted September 29, 2012 The plants will either "crash" or stop growing and shed leaves. You will NEVER be able to maintain the same lush vegetation without CO2. That is why I want a presureised bottle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 29, 2012 Lyngs wrote on Sat, 29 September 2012 23:16The plants will either "crash" or stop growing and shed leaves. You will NEVER be able to maintain the same lush vegetation without CO2. That is why I want a presureised bottle. Yep, figured.. :/ Too big investment imo with pressurized since my tank isnt really big. : O This will have to do. But my plant delivery was delayed for some reason.. Sucks. ;( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted September 29, 2012 I heard that a 6L flask of CO2 can be rented for around 800DKK and a filling which should last between 6 and 12 months is about 400DKK at a gasstation chain here. Not realy as expensive as I thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted September 30, 2012 Thats not bad at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted October 3, 2012 Co2- bubbling away like crazy now. The Black beard algae most of it is turning red now, which means its dying. good good, now I got some small green furry algae on my staurogyne instead. Starting a tank is a fucking rollercoaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted October 7, 2012 I'm also thinking pressurized co2.. Seriously, it's not even expensive, why bother with stupid yeast that's pretty unreliable.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted October 7, 2012 http://fish.aquaristic.net/aquaristic-tec-CO2-complete-plant .html Wonder if this is any good, buy the package iwthout co2 tube and get that on a local fire service place instead. Wondering about the silly co2 levels cause of yeast gives me diarrhea ^.^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Local store said a 2kg tube would cost 100 euros. so buying hte 2kg aquaristic set is chaeper, then it costs 35 euros for a refill. So can buy the aquaristic system then go to them when I need filling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Be careful with buying pressurerised flasks outside your country. They might not have the same standard as you. I know that most German flasks cant be refilled here in Denmark. I checked for a local supplier of CO2 tanks today. Found a local chain which "rents" out 6Kg flasks (from Air Liquide) for 1600DKK and a filling costs 350DKK. It is a rather large investment, taking the pressure needle and other equipment into account, but a filling should last me more than six months and the 1600DKK I would get back if I deside to turn in the flask. Also, not having to mix yeast and sugar every week and the fact that the CO2 level will be stable with a pressureised flask is a HUGE plus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Lyngs wrote on Mon, 08 October 2012 13:47Be careful with buying pressurerised flasks outside your country. They might not have the same standard as you. I know that most German flasks cant be refilled here in Denmark. I checked for a local supplier of CO2 tanks today. Found a local chain which "rents" out 6Kg flasks (from Air Liquide) for 1600DKK and a filling costs 350DKK. It is a rather large investment, taking the pressure needle and other equipment into account, but a filling should last me more than six months and the 1600DKK I would get back if I deside to turn in the flask. Also, not having to mix yeast and sugar every week and the fact that the CO2 level will be stable with a pressureised flask is a HUGE plus. Yea I talked to local store that can fix a used fire extinguisher for 1000 SEK. 350 SEK refill. It's not bad. Then i would "own" the flask though. Then go ebay this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370 393120693#ht_5227wt_1159 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370 393120610#ht_5148wt_1159 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250 449456567#ht_5095wt_1159 Don't know if that regulator has a needle valve or not. Has to be sure about that. Or any other stuff from somewhere, havn't looked into that closely yet. EDIT: Actually. I can buy the aquaristic kit without the bottle simply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Fire extinguishers usualy contain a dip tube. Which means that you let out from teh bottom and not the top, resulting in liquid CO2 coming out in the form of crystal foam. So you have to find a way to have it stand top down in order to tap gas and not liquid, if that is at all possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Lyngs wrote on Mon, 08 October 2012 14:21Fire extinguishers usualy contain a dip tube. Which means that you let out from teh bottom and not the top, resulting in liquid CO2 coming out in the form of crystal foam. So you have to find a way to have it stand top down in order to tap gas and not liquid, if that is at all possible. They will remove it. As long as you specify that you want it to come out as gas and not as liquid. Just ordered the non-tube gear from aquaristic as I said previous post. Fixing tube from that local company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted October 8, 2012 We used one of those with dip tube in our paintball team though, that's where I learned the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Naicha wrote on Mon, 08 October 2012 14:28We used one of those with dip tube in our paintball team though, that's where I learned the difference. Same here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Lyngs wrote on Mon, 08 October 2012 13:47CO2 level will be stable with a pressureised flask is a HUGE plus. Just simply turning it on about 1 hour before light turns on then shutting it off 1 hour before light turns off should be perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zyphi Report post Posted October 8, 2012 should buy some baby sharks naicha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Sharks would be cool! But they need a big big tank. ;D Wonder if there are different shapes of tubes.. Would be flawless if I could find a tube that was only 40 cm tall with the screw otherwise it would have to lie down on the side. Like one of those fat short tubes that they use for flammable shit. myabe not possible. I dont know how big a 2kg tube is either, or if it even CAN lie down. Maybe it can lie down iwth an angle. Lots of thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
