Gromk Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Salt water aquarium Cogency! Once you're done with the chemistry class there's less cleaning and changing water and stuff, just feed and pray everything keeps stable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Gromk wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 19:58just feed and pray everything keeps stable. It never does unless you know what you're doing. But salt water aquariums with coralls are very cool! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cogency Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Hehe, I've so many things I need to "fix/change" in the house first.... So for now, ill just settle with this lil monster running around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Funny how the cat has that "If you keep me here for 5 more seconds, I'm going to put you down." Cats are awesome, especially combined with fish. When I was young my cats used to sit on the aquarium, then suddenly the glass top fell down and the cat down with it, into the aquarium, then they didnt dare to sit on the aqarium for a couple of weeks before they started doing it again, then fell back down, rinse and repeat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 13, 2012 w Gromk wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 19:58Salt water aquarium Cogency! Once you're done with the chemistry class there's less cleaning and changing water and stuff, just feed and pray everything keeps stable. If you spend ½ as much money on a freshwater setup you will have less maintenance than with a saltwater setup. My uncles 1000L aquarium has been in total balance for several years and all he does is fill in a little water once in a while. The biggest maintenance requirement is when you have a high amount of plants and/or too many fish. A few shots of my 250L aquarium. Not the best camera so cant say the pictures do the setup justice. First shot is from day one. I will see if I can get my uncle to take/send me some pictures of his tank and catfish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Beautiful cat you have there Cog! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 This is funny. Found a guideline as to how many fish you "can" have. Fish with a maximum size of 3 cm - at least 2 L of water per fish. Fish with a maximum size of 5 cm - at least 5 L of water per fish. Fish with a maximum size of 7-8 cm - at least 10 L of water per fish. Fish with a maximum size of 15 cm - at least 25 L of water per fish. As I have rougly 100-110 liters. That wouldn't be many fishies. But then again, more of same kind is much better looking than few of many different species. Maybe 10 neon tetra, 5 zebra fish (adopt from my girlfriends parents who doesnt want their aquarium anymore), 1 catfish thats pretty big now, can clean around ofc, and maybe 3 different malawi ciklids or something, alittle bigger fish that is with bright colors to set some contrast in the aqarium in both color and size (since the tetra and zebras are pretty small) Neon Tetra Zebra Fish Golden ciklid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cogency Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Lyngs wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 20:18 Beautiful cat you have there Cog! Thanks, amazing aquarium you have there. Love how green and "bushy" it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 13, 2012 @Cog I love bushy. @Naicha Guidelines are just that. Some fish thrive in lesser water some needs lots more. About school(?) fish, generaly you shouldnt have more than one kind in a tank and usualy no less than ten. Two or more different species of school fish can make the tank look "messy". About catfish, be very careful which species you buy, most can get quite large and should not be kept in tanks smaller than 3-500L. That said, you can easily find one that suits your tank fine. Neon and Golden "malawi" Cichlids have too different needs in water temperature. Generaly Malawis thrive in "cold" 20-25C water, while Neon look their best at 28-30C. Not that you cant put Neon in a tank colder than that, you just wont see them at their best, and they might just sit in a corner or worse get stressed and sick. If you are set on Neon you should go for some south american cichlids. Apistogramma species are some of the most colourful and wont outgrow your tank. I dont have any companion suggestions for golden cichlids as I havent looked into african lakes that much. They are beautiful tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 14, 2012 http://zoopet.com/fiskar/fisk.php?NR=476&SOK=1 http://zoopet.com/fiskar/fisk.php?NR=89&SOK=1 Seem to have pretty much the same, The only difference is pH but can keep that at a steady 7.5 and it will be fine. The 5 zebras btw i will adopt just ot get the´m out of my girlfriends parents hands.. then I might adopt them away aswell, just dont want them to be killed. : ) they wasnt in my original plan.. I'd rather have like 15 neons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qwazin Report post Posted May 14, 2012 You have to remember also that malawi cichlid's prefer a sand/rock aquarium, whereas neon and zebra fish comes from areas with plants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 14, 2012 Naicha wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 07:39 http://zoopet.com/fiskar/fisk.php?NR=476&SOK=1 http://zoopet.com/fiskar/fisk.php?NR=89&SOK=1 Seem to have pretty much the same, The only difference is pH but can keep that at a steady 7.5 and it will be fine. The 5 zebras btw i will adopt just ot get the´m out of my girlfriends parents hands.. then I might adopt them away aswell, just dont want them to be killed. : ) they wasnt in my original plan.. I'd rather have like 15 neons. The Neon you pictured above is a Paracheirodon axelrodi (Red Neon) which has different demands than Paracheirodon innesi (Neon Tetra). Guess I just asumed you meant red neon as its the most common. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cogency Report post Posted May 14, 2012 Qwazin wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 14:26 You have to remember also that malawi cichlid's prefer a sand/rock aquarium, whereas neon and zebra fish comes from areas with plants Didnt your parents used to have an aquarium store? or you? or something like that? I seem to recall something like that or maybe it was someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qwazin Report post Posted May 14, 2012 Cogency wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 14:39 Didnt your parents used to have an aquarium store? or you? or something like that? I seem to recall something like that or maybe it was someone else. Thats like in L1 I must have told you about that? thats a good memory! but yes that is correct, my dad used to have an aquarium shop for 20~30 years. (closed down a few years ago) Sadly though I have yet to get an aquarium after I moved from DK to UK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 14, 2012 Qwazin wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 14:26You have to remember also that malawi cichlid's prefer a sand/rock aquarium, whereas neon and zebra fish comes from areas with plants I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 14, 2012 I could get some Gurami's aswell, similar looking fish but they prefer sour water with lush vegetation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 14, 2012 Lyngs wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 14:37 Naicha wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 07:39 http://zoopet.com/fiskar/fisk.php?NR=476&SOK=1 http://zoopet.com/fiskar/fisk.php?NR=89&SOK=1 Seem to have pretty much the same, The only difference is pH but can keep that at a steady 7.5 and it will be fine. The 5 zebras btw i will adopt just ot get the´m out of my girlfriends parents hands.. then I might adopt them away aswell, just dont want them to be killed. : ) they wasnt in my original plan.. I'd rather have like 15 neons. The Neon you pictured above is a Paracheirodon axelrodi (Red Neon) which has different demands than Paracheirodon innesi (Neon Tetra). Guess I just asumed you meant red neon as its the most common. The link I posted says innesi. youre wrong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qwazin Report post Posted May 14, 2012 As long as you don't plan to try and get the Gurami's to lay eggs and breed, then they live fine in a "normal" environment, same with the Neon. Most "normal" fish you can easily keep in 24 degrees water, with whatever pH your water have, its if you want to try and breed with some of your fish that they can get very demanding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 14, 2012 I'm not going to breed, but I still want to make it as comfortable as possible for my fishies. That said, I know you can combine Malawis and Neons etc no problem. But as you said, it's not "perfect" but I don't need breeding, it would just cause problems cause I'd have to give the fish away to someone. Will be at least a couple of months before I even get to the fish-buying part so I have some time to think about that. =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 14, 2012 Naicha wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 15:44 Lyngs wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 14:37 Naicha wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 07:39 http://zoopet.com/fiskar/fisk.php?NR=476&SOK=1 http://zoopet.com/fiskar/fisk.php?NR=89&SOK=1 Seem to have pretty much the same, The only difference is pH but can keep that at a steady 7.5 and it will be fine. The 5 zebras btw i will adopt just ot get the´m out of my girlfriends parents hands.. then I might adopt them away aswell, just dont want them to be killed. : ) they wasnt in my original plan.. I'd rather have like 15 neons. The Neon you pictured above is a Paracheirodon axelrodi (Red Neon) which has different demands than Paracheirodon innesi (Neon Tetra). Guess I just asumed you meant red neon as its the most common. The link I posted says innesi. youre wrong! I know the link is for innesi. My ramblings about temperature was based on the picture you posted earlier and even tho you write Neon tetra below the picture. The picture is showing a axelrodi. On a different note, after I have gotten my Daphnia farm up and running, my Apistogramma agazizzi have begun spawning like mad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 14, 2012 Oh yea, I just googled the picture. Dunno what I got. Think this is enough movement along the surface? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 14, 2012 How my background looks atm. The glass on the back is going to be black aswell so you wont see through it. I'm just alittle worried that the middle section blocks some of the light from the rear tube.. But oh well, probably not much to worry about. Might even look nice if it casts a shadow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 14, 2012 Plenty of surface movement mate. I am realy looking forward to seeing the end result! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 15, 2012 Me to! It sucks though that I have a planned move in the next couple of months so I cant start until I've moved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Netster Report post Posted May 15, 2012 I'm no expert, but to me it looks like you have too many rocks and not enough fish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 15, 2012 Netster wrote on Tue, 15 May 2012 08:52I'm no expert, but to me it looks like you have too many rocks and not enough fish. It's styrofoam! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Netster Report post Posted May 15, 2012 Naicha wrote on Tue, 15 May 2012 07:57 Netster wrote on Tue, 15 May 2012 08:52I'm no expert, but to me it looks like you have too many rocks and not enough fish. It's styrofoam! Oh well that should provide hours of relaxing viewing then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 17, 2012 Great success! Now it's all T5 from here. Siliconed the cover back and it's all water proofed again. Also cut a computer power cable and installed it instead so that it's grounded properly now. When it's time to start growing plants in the aquarium I will have to buy reflectors though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
