Naicha Report post Posted May 12, 2012 Gamla T8-lysr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howley Report post Posted May 12, 2012 Google translate makes this confusing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 12, 2012 Yes but since electrics could be different in various countries I figured I'd ask for swedish people. If any. Maybe a longshot but I'm just so lazy to go locate an electrician. ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muuman Report post Posted May 12, 2012 Naicha wrote on Sat, 12 May 2012 20:14Yes but since electrics could be different in various countries I figured I'd ask for swedish people. If any. Maybe a longshot but I'm just so lazy to go locate an electrician. ^^ Send a PM to Airo, He's swedish and an electrician but he's out fishing now so might not respond until tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 12, 2012 Muuman wrote on Sat, 12 May 2012 20:16 Naicha wrote on Sat, 12 May 2012 20:14Yes but since electrics could be different in various countries I figured I'd ask for swedish people. If any. Maybe a longshot but I'm just so lazy to go locate an electrician. ^^ Send a PM to Airo, He's swedish and an electrician but he's out fishing now so might not respond until tomorrow. Thank you! Will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto Report post Posted May 12, 2012 You MUST ground it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fjodor Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Just nu har du en fas och en nolla (med 2 sladdar). Vilken som Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Ernesto wrote on Sat, 12 May 2012 23:19You MUST ground it Seriously? Dont you guys have rccb-relays? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto Report post Posted May 13, 2012 It's a lights, for his aquarium, that is filled with water, that can splash on the lights, maybe the aquarium has a stainless steel frame, someone is holding the edge while having the top lid off, while fishing up a dead plant, so the water splashes on the lights, and the steel frame + you becomes the ground, and you die, quite fast. Sad story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Ernesto wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 08:33that can splash on the lights, maybe the aquarium has a stainless steel frame No and no. And even though the electrics are water proofed, I always disconnected the power when fiddling with stuff. But I see your point though. originally it wasnt grounded either, obviously, since it's not a grounded cable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warder Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Ground or die trying. as for the blue and brown wires they go to 1 and 2, it's AC, so no matter what you put where. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Don't need to, but since I'm already doing so much other stuff I might aswell replace the cable. They aren't expensive.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henraw Report post Posted May 13, 2012 ground is just for protection anyway just insert blue and brown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howley Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Henpig last time you said "...is just for protection anyway" you spawned a minion! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 13, 2012 I have been a passionate aquarist for more than 20 years and I have never heard of anyone getting electricuted by their aquarium lights. A lot of stuff has to go wrong before there is any risk of getting zapped. Water has to somehow penetrade the watertight rubber seals and bypass the fusetube inside the light. The only way I see this happening is if you drop the whole lid into the aquarium and the light box gets damaged. Someone please correct me if Im wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gromk Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Was at a party once where someone fell on the aquarium, light rig fell in the water and the power went out. All said and done every fish in there was floating around on their backs. Except a lonely catfish of awesomeness, can't kill those things apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airo Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Skaffa en sladd med jord i. Brun, Bl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 airo wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 17:48HF don kan skapa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 kom precis p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 13, 2012 airo wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 17:48Skaffa en sladd med jord i. Brun, Bl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto Report post Posted May 13, 2012 No. That reel is grounded, if the device you plug into it isn't, it won't matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Gromk wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 17:45Was at a party once where someone fell on the aquarium, light rig fell in the water and the power went out. All said and done every fish in there was floating around on their backs. Except a lonely catfish of awesomeness, can't kill those things apparently. Catfish are generaly awesome. Maybe they have nine lives like cats. My uncle has a big one which is more than 20 years old in his 1000L aquarium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyngs Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Ernesto wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 18:38No. That reel is grounded, if the device you plug into it isn't, it won't matter. I asked because the reel I use on my aquarium lighting doesnt have grounding but the plug on the light does and all this talk has gotten me a bit worried. I cant turn off the light while I trim my plants, so that jojo reel would make it safe? The whole lid and frame on my tank is aluminium. I always thought that as long as you have a RCCB relay you are pretty safe... apparently not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Lyngs wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 19:01 Ernesto wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 18:38No. That reel is grounded, if the device you plug into it isn't, it won't matter. I asked because the reel I use on my aquarium lighting doesnt have grounding but the plug on the light does and all this talk has gotten me a bit worried. I cant turn off the light while I trim my plants, so that jojo reel would make it safe? The whole lid and frame on my tank is aluminium. I always thought that as long as you have a RCCB relay you are pretty safe... apparently not. Sounds more dodgy with ungrounded things if its metal. In general metal constructions are grounded and plastic ones are rarely grounded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Lyngs wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 18:50 Gromk wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 17:45Was at a party once where someone fell on the aquarium, light rig fell in the water and the power went out. All said and done every fish in there was floating around on their backs. Except a lonely catfish of awesomeness, can't kill those things apparently. Catfish are generaly awesome. Maybe they have nine lives like cats. My uncle has a big one which is more than 20 years old in his 1000L aquarium. Need a picture of that btw. Both the fish and the huge indoor sea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Yes need pic! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Maybe we should just rename this an aquarium thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cogency Report post Posted May 13, 2012 I always been fascinated by an aquarium. The thing that puts me off is (well besides the price for a decent size aquarium) the maintenance! But would love something with all kinds of funky coloured fish in it. ^.^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naicha Report post Posted May 13, 2012 Cogency wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 19:49I always been fascinated by an aquarium. The thing that puts me off is (well besides the price for a decent size aquarium) the cleaning! But would love something with all kinds of funky coloured fish in it. ^.^ Proper care and knowledge reduces the need for cleaning, knowing how to deal with algae etc. But yes, you will need to exchange about 25% of the water every week etc. So it's alittle work here and there, but imo in general it doesnt have to take up all that much time. I'm in the bizniz of rebuilding and creating a beautiful place for future fish to live. Mounting "3d" backgrounds to the back on the aquarium etc so that the backgroudn will look like real rock etc. Its fun, and later on to see your plants grow and your aquarium etc take shape. Lyngs posted a really beatiful aquarium in the gallery camera thread. A typical anyday random aquarium with not that much care and effort imo will look bad, terrible, but if you go the extra lengths like Lyngs did, they will be amazingly beautiful. EDIT: you can get decent size aquariums pretty cheap if you buy them used though.. So many people go OMGWTFDAMN!!11 HAZ TO HAVE ONE!111 and then they buy the biggest one in the store and realise that "oh, it has to be cleaned? dont not want." and then they sell it again for half price.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites