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Looking at 27" monitors, anyone have any good experience with them? Max 300euro.

 

I found this one from Asus:

 

Asus VE278Q

http://cd.ch-img.com/774103-asus-ve278q,bWF4LTYwMHg2MDA=.jpg

 

or this LG E2770V-BF

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I want something like this, nice clean edges around.

 

 

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Guy at work tried out a 27# that only had 1920x1200 reso and figured that it got too big and blocky, you need higher resolution for it to be worth it at all. They bought 3 of the apple ones at work, which are freaking godly, but not sure they are good to game on. They are also silly expensive.

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Ernesto wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 18:46
which are freaking godly

 

Apple displays are pure eye candy. Overblown contrast and saturation make everything you see on them look super colourful and shiny. Their actual colour accuracy and perfomance - even when calibrated - is nowhere near where it should be for that price (like that's news concerning apple products). Also note that they use IPS panels. These offer wider viewing angles and overall better colour representation while being slower and not quite as well suited for gaming as "conventional" TN screens. Awesome if price and true colour rendition are a non-issue.

 

 

 

Cog:

As the Ern stated, you want a 2560x1440 resolution on a 27-incher for the size to really pay off (the increased hardware strain is probably a non-issue for you).

Depending on what you want to do with the screen (gaming, entertainment: 16:9, TN // colour sensitive work, photoshop: 16:10, IPS) you might be hard-pressed to find anything solid within your budget. I would, in all honesty, stick to 23/24". That size offers the same "virtual space" at a 1920 resolution and doesn't come with the downsides (energy consumption, homogeneous brightness, viewing angle, speed).

And if you really really want 27 inches: Stay away from that Asus screen; it received some less than favourable reviews. LG one looks better. Samsung also offers a gaming screen for slightly more money, the C27A750X.

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The 2560x1440 resolution screens start at 600euro tho. :P

I might consider 400euro, but 600 is just to much.

 

That Samsung C27A750X is 450euro, I guess its that expensive because you can hook up your laptop through wifi on it or something..

 

 

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YES! Kims plasma is like 2x1 resolution but its sharper than anything in the whole world and its bestest! (This should now make Kim and Ern have some kind of epic discussion unless im mistaken :P)

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Incindentally, I'm currently looking for a 24" allrounder. Startup time and movement trailing/ghosting are seriously getting out of hand on my dusty old Syncmaster.

Problem: Expert reviews and user comments conveniently contradict eath other on every damn screen I could see myself buying.

 

 

Anyone got recommendations (preferrably 16:10)?

 

 

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Neara wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 21:29
Ernesto wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 18:46
which are freaking godly

 

Apple displays are pure eye candy. Overblown contrast and saturation make everything you see on them look super colourful and shiny. Their actual colour accuracy and perfomance - even when calibrated - is nowhere near where it should be for that price (like that's news concerning apple products). Also note that they use IPS panels. These offer wider viewing angles and overall better colour representation while being slower and not quite as well suited for gaming as "conventional" TN screens. Awesome if price and true colour rendition are a non-issue.

 

 

 

Cog:

As the Ern stated, you want a 2560x1440 resolution on a 27-incher for the size to really pay off (the increased hardware strain is probably a non-issue for you).

Depending on what you want to do with the screen (gaming, entertainment: 16:9, TN // colour sensitive work, photoshop: 16:10, IPS) you might be hard-pressed to find anything solid within your budget. I would, in all honesty, stick to 23/24". That size offers the same "virtual space" at a 1920 resolution and doesn't come with the downsides (energy consumption, homogeneous brightness, viewing angle, speed).

And if you really really want 27 inches: Stay away from that Asus screen; it received some less than favourable reviews. LG one looks better. Samsung also offers a gaming screen for slightly more money, the C27A750X.

 

 

5 years ago what you say about IPS monitors is true, now, not so much. Especially not if it's an e-IPS panel, which have faster response times today than most TN panels had a few years back.

 

Back in the day, you just COULDNT play on a flatscreen if it had more than 100ms responsetime. Now little nerds are like screaming OMG 8ms OMG NOT PLAYABLE.

 

It's all bullshit.

 

About the full gamut range of the color spectrum, that is also a load of crock. More bullshit than some HIFI nerd who thinks he can hear the difference on cables that are filled with lead and gel to dampen vibrations....

 

 

The apple monitors are glossy and everything looks fucking fantastic, there are no other mainstream monitors that look even remotely as good. Sure, they are overpriced like most Apple products, but they look gorgeous. I haven't tried gaming on them, and the glossy screen wouldn't work in my apartment, but pretty is pretty, no matter if it wears makeup or not.

 

 

 

For a 24" I'd go with the big brother of my screen, the Dell u2412m. Works great, only drawback is the thick anti-glare (which is great in my appartment) and low-black turns quite gray when viewed from the left. It's the same as my screens, just that it's 16:10 instead of 16:9 (I went with 16:9 to get a little less reso for eyefinity)

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Joost has 27" iMac with crazy resolution, looks nice!

 

Specs for the LG say its E-IPS, but people on forums say its Super TN(?!?). Anyway It seems to be a good screen for the price.

 

Im also wondering if 2560 resolution might be better for 30". If you compare 27" 2560 and 24" 1920, the amount of extra pixels you get is crazy compared to the screen size increase. Everything might end up a little to small for my poor little eyes. (like 15" laptops running full hd or something)

 

Also, those high resolutions complicate frapsing.

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Haven't made good experiences with Dell as a company. Specs look pretty good for that price though.

 

 

More bla:

In my book, response time has been almost irrelevant for anything else than cheap marketing since TFTs have been introduced, really. I could play almost everything just fine on my old 25ms screen while the 2ms Samsung had slight ghost trailing from the get-go.

 

Nowadays everyone and their mother are trying to sell people IPS displays - which are evidently superior to TN when it comes to image quality. I have not yet encountered a single e-IPS display that made me feel comfortable when gaming, however. You hear of uniformity issues, of the weird crystal coating glitter that some people find distracting while others don't even notice it. There's those who say that 120 Hz are the way to go for gaming, others who don't see any difference no matter what panel they have in front of their face.

If, as you say, the advanced colour spectrum of wide gamut screens is a load of crap (which it is for people who only need sRGB), there wouldn't be any significant step-up from TN to (e-)IPS in my eyes, and nothing justifying their generally higher price.

In the end it really boils down to what people are fine with, and that's subject to perception and taste. Going to try that Dell and the new Foris.

 

 

Apple's design philosophy is a topic too touchy to discuss here, methinks. Models in advertising look incredibly beautiful too, and we've been taught to be perfectly fine with that, no, to strive towards such ideals. Make it shiny, make it look good, make it unrealistic, for that's what humans naturally best respond to. That's what Apple does with their tech. And it works.

Fact is: I get a terrible headache during and after prolonged exposure to their cinema displays. Damn reflective coating.

 

Cogency wrote on Tue, 08 November 2011 17:47

Im also wondering if 2560 resolution might be better for 30". If you compare 27" 2560 and 24" 1920, the amount of extra pixels you get is crazy compared to the screen size increase. Everything might end up a little to small for my poor little eyes. (like 15" laptops running full hd or something)

 

Also, those high resolutions complicate frapsing.

 

 

We've also got the 27" 2560 Apple displays at the academy, and things appear quite small indeed. Would be too small for me when sitting more than a few feet away from the screen.

Guess you've got to check out what best suits you at the closest store.

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According to prad.de, that LG has a TN panel and no major weaknesses. Why not order and test it for a few days?

 

AS-IPS is usually built into the higher end of the spectrum, no?

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Want to make sure I sell my current screens first, guy said yesterday on the phone he would contact me later to come and pick em up.

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Unless they've gotten a lot more awesome in the last year, those shutter glasses are horrible for playing more than 30-45 minutes at a time.

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I read nothing in that review about improvements to the eyestrain and headache after an hours worth of gaming.

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Its there, you just need to look closer ;) nah, but its said to be alot better now then before, i guess ill find out soon enough.

 

On a second thought, anyone know of any 2560x1600 monitors? Its on my wanted list also.

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Don't get me wrong. It already looked pretty damn glorious, and it sound like the changes they've made are good. But I couldn't play it for extended periods of time.

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Nice to hear Coggy ;).

 

 

Might rethink the 24" decision, there just doesn't seem to be a screen fitting my needs. 27" would also mean a hardware upgrade though.

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i was gonna go for

Samsung SyncMaster P2770FH

 

is this any good? or should i check further for something else?

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samsung syncmaster's are good, unless you have them open 24/7 :P then the small thing in the monitor burns out really fast and you need to replace it (which costs the same as buying a whole new monitor). But yeah i'm happy with my samsung products and their customer support works in case of emergency

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I have a 23" ASUS 3D screen for sale in the next week.

 

Ad coming up on the forum like allways :P

 

Did i say the price is supernice?

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