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#1 Sammerkand Sammerkand

Sun, 14 October 2018 16:41

I was a tad skeptical.

 

I bought one anyway.

 

https://www.amazon.c...ref=plSrch&th=1

 

Wow, was i wrong to be skeptical. Press the on button, turn around, type in password, and everything is loaded. Circa 5 seconds from post boot screen.

 

Apps are blisteringly fast as are game load times. Star citizen performance increased circa 70% once it was installed on the drive, (Pre 3.3)

 

And, if you have the Motherboard to fully utilize simplicity to fit.

 

Quietly impressed, much better option than the Standard SDD, and Soooo small. Good job i have "the Boy"tm to fit it coz i am useless at fiddly stuff.


Edited by Sammerkand, Sun, 14 October 2018 16:42.

 

#2 Cogency Cogency Lord and stuff.

Sun, 14 October 2018 16:50

Jah, got myself one also with the new PC. Really damn sweet.


 

#3 Lyngs Lyngs

Sun, 14 October 2018 16:52

Star citizen performance increased circa 70% once it was installed on the drive, (Pre 3.3)

Are you sure you did not pull that percentage out of your rectum? Was it installed on a SATA SSD before or a HDD?


 

#4 Sammerkand Sammerkand

Sun, 14 October 2018 16:56

just a plain old 7200 rpm drive ...

 

And to clarify, by 70% improvement, i am talking load times, NOT frame rates.


Edited by Sammerkand, Sun, 14 October 2018 16:57.

 

#5 Lyngs Lyngs

Sun, 14 October 2018 17:03

just a plain old 7200 rpm drive ...

 

And to clarify, by 70% improvement, i am talking load times, NOT frame rates.

Ah, that makes sense then.

 

A 860 EVO SATA SSD would give almost the exact same experience over a HDD. 


 

#6 Cogency Cogency Lord and stuff.

Mon, 15 October 2018 07:24

I got a 250gb one as Windows/programs drive and now I am considering getting a 1TB one as games drive when I have a few pennies again. 


Edited by Cogency, Mon, 15 October 2018 07:24.

 

#7 Sammerkand Sammerkand

Mon, 15 October 2018 19:05

1 TB is only £250 - 2 is down to about £500 now, My MB has 2 dedicated nvme slot BUT, if i use the second one i lose sata  5 & ^


 

#8 Cogency Cogency Lord and stuff.

Tue, 16 October 2018 08:57

1 TB is only £250 - 2 is down to about £500 now, My MB has 2 dedicated nvme slot BUT, if i use the second one i lose sata  5 & ^

Yeah how does that work with the Sata? 

I have one 250gb nvme for programs and windows, gonna add a second 1tb one for games so both slots will be filled. 

I do however have one normal 250gb ssd for recording and an old school 4gb for movies and backup, will they take a big hit in performance or how does that work? I got the Strix z390-F mobo.


 

#9 Sammerkand Sammerkand

Tue, 16 October 2018 14:12

Generally your MB will have 6 Sata channels, the second lot uses channels 5 and 6, so as long as you have no drives connected to 5 and 6 your are fine.


 

#10 Kunasha Kunasha The Almighty One

Tue, 16 October 2018 15:08

You will need to look at the manual for your motherboard
 

#11 Cogency Cogency Lord and stuff.

Tue, 16 October 2018 15:45

Ah, well its all working so Im good. :P


 

#12 Kunasha Kunasha The Almighty One

Tue, 16 October 2018 17:57

Your chipset not too bad
https://www.asus.com...specifications/

Intel® Z390 Chipset :
1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M key, type 2242/2260/2280 storage devices support (both SATA & PCIE mode)*1
1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 storage devices support (PCIE 3.0 x 4 mode)
6 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s)
Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10
Intel® Optane™ Memory Ready

*1 When the M.2_1 Socket 3 is operating in SATA mode, SATA port 2 will be disable.
 
 
The manual confirms it is 1 of your 6 SATA ports. It does this due to the number of PCI-E lanes available.

 

Edit: if you are using PCI-E for both M2, you still get your 6 SATA ports


Edited by Kunasha, Tue, 16 October 2018 18:14.
Correction after reading manual

 

#13 Kunasha Kunasha The Almighty One

Tue, 16 October 2018 18:02

Z270 chipset (mine)

Intel® Z270 Chipset :
1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 storage devices support (both SATA & PCIE mode)*2
1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, type 2242/2260/2280 storage devices support (PCIE mode only)*3
6 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s)
Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10
Supports Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Rapid Storage Technology supports
Intel® Optane™ Memory Ready

*2 When the M.2_1 Socket 3 is operating in SATA mode, SATA port 1 will be disabled.

*3 When the M.2_2 Socket 3 is operatin in PCIe 3.0 x4 mode, SATA ports 5 and 6 will be disabled.
 

#14 Cogency Cogency Lord and stuff.

Tue, 16 October 2018 18:14

These things are awesome, plug it in and one screw and done. 

Might start looking at a new computer case, a smaller one. The entire right side will be empty, nothing in the drive bays and will end up with 1 HD in the HD bay which might aswell be an external one with the current speeds and how often I use it.

 

Wonder if there are any cases that are small but big enough to support an ATX board with a proper tower cooler and fullsize gfx. Most small cases also want a tiny mobo.


Edited by Cogency, Tue, 16 October 2018 18:17.

 

#15 Kunasha Kunasha The Almighty One

Tue, 16 October 2018 18:29

It looks like the main changes from Z270 and Z390 chipsets are what components share PCI-Lanes. For your board Cogency, M2 is out of picture really. It's now on the 3rd GPU PCI-E port for you

 

Your BIOS options on left, mine on right

 

bios.jpg

 

Thing yours is referring to:

 

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Edited by Kunasha, Tue, 16 October 2018 18:30.

 

#16 Cogency Cogency Lord and stuff.

Tue, 16 October 2018 18:31

So if SLI would ever become a thing again I am all good?
 

#17 Kunasha Kunasha The Almighty One

Tue, 16 October 2018 18:33

yes, because you'd use ports 1 and 2


 

#18 Kunasha Kunasha The Almighty One

Tue, 16 October 2018 18:34

also, then 3xGPU and 5 x SATA drives before you need to worry

 

(apart from up 2 x M2 drives which aren't an issue at all)


Edited by Kunasha, Tue, 16 October 2018 18:39.
correction, M2 not an issue

 

#19 Sammerkand Sammerkand

Tue, 16 October 2018 18:42

also, then 3xGPU and 5 x SATA drives before you need to worry

 

(apart from up 2 x M2 drives which aren't an issue at all)

Cog,

 

With the 4TB Standard SSD's available, that's one hell of a lot of storage for a gaming rig. Maximum possible would be 24 TB of storage with 3 2080gtx Ti's

 

I want to see you with that set up, with 64 gb DDR4 @at least 3200mhz, and post your 3DMark scores.

 

I know you have the cash........ your cat told me.

 

Even I cant justify that,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yet.


Edited by Sammerkand, Tue, 16 October 2018 18:42.

 

#20 Cogency Cogency Lord and stuff.

Tue, 16 October 2018 18:49

Haha, yeah I am just waiting for euhhh, some proper benchmark competition.  :lol:

 

Nah I should be good for another 6 years again, the GFX I usually try to replace after 2 years. If cores really become a major thing, this mobo also supports the 9xxx series so can always upgrade to the new 8core ones instead of this 6. But in all honesty, for gaming I think 6 will be more then enough the next couple of years. hehe